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04/08/2005

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Barry

How about the Beatles? Or fucking... fucking Beethoven? Side one, Track one of the Fifth Symphony... How can someone with no interest in music write about it in his blog?

tom

You'd be hard pressed to make the argument that Summer Babe is Pavement's best side one song one. Silence Kit, Stereo, Spit on a Stranger. They know how to kick off an album.

Bonus points for "The Sickbed of Cuchculainn", by the way. That song is a jam!


D. Lee

Doesn't anyone want me?

very metal

You know, I was thinking about "Silence Kit", but... well, you know.

benjamin hayes

What about "Time Bomb" off of TOO FAR TO CARE by the Old 97s?

or "Cherub Rock?" or "Feel" by Big Star? Jeez this list needs some work.

very metal

I'll assume you commented before the update, Mr. Hayes -- eerie how I appear to be able to telepathically anticipate your fault-finding. Well-founded fault-finding in the case of the Old 97's, not as much with the Pumpkins or Big Star.

The big question is whether "Cherub" or "Feel" were definitive songs relative to the rest of their respective albums? I'd say "no" on "Cherub Rock" -- it's good, but hardly better than "Geek U.S.A." or a couple of others. And is "Feel" is a shining moment of Radio City? That's a hypothetical question. We all know the answer is clearly no.

tom

Airbag Conspiracy from OK Computer Radiohead.
Want from Unfun Jawbreaker.
Trompe Le Monde from Trompe Le Monde Pixies.
Kissing the Lipless from Chutes Too Narrow Shins.
Like A Fool from Foolish Superchunk. (Also, Skip Steps 1 & 3 from No Pocky)

tom

OK, based on the 'definitive song' perspective, "Want" definitely is, probably not the rest of the songs I just listed.

bernjarmeen

quite the controversial list today, McCoy Lumber. Why hasn't Robert the Red petitioned for his precious...whatever he holds precious...

anyway, I would also add:
Army of Me - Bjork, POST
Knockin' on Mine - Paul Westerberg

tom

Why hasn't Derrek Lee hit a freaking home run yet?!

very metal

I've been wondering where Robert is myself... either I've given him what he needs with "No Action" and "Welcome to the Working Week", or we're looking at the quiet before the storm.

I did a lot of research online to see what other folks listed as top song ones -- "Caring Is Creepy" by your beloved Shins was on a signficant number of lists. Sorry, a significant number of stupid lists.

Tom, it's the fifth day of the season! Take a Zanax and cool yer jets. Lotsa baseball left to be played. Plus it's still chilly in Chi-town.

tom

Man, this Shins-bashing I take from the cool kids reminds me of getting slammed for liking the Soup Dragons in ninth grade. On second thought...

I played him today over Rolen because he's been so hot recently. Watch Rolen go 4-4 with to HRs, 6 RBI, and a walk.

Robert will be here shortly. He has been summonned using unholy means from the very supermarket of darkness!

The Tartan Horde

Was there a final ruling on allowing jazz songs? It looks like you struck "Ole" and kept "Kind of Blue." For the record, I'd put "My Favorite Things," "Afro-Blue," and "Acknowledgement" all ahead of "Ole."

The Tartan Horde

On the other hand, you're right and Tom is wrong about "Summer Babe [Winter Version]."

Also, "No Action" is the best opening track of all time. It's not even worth arguing.

The Tartan Horde

CORRECTION: I meant to write "So What" instead of "Kind of Blue." Other than that, each of my comments above conveys an infallible truth.

Mickey Gordan

Check out Pharoah Sanders' version of Ole, if you haven't already....

benjamin hayes

How about Spoon's "Everything Hits at Once" from GIRLS CAN TELL? I know Swellburg could write better, but come on...

very metal

Alright, I agree about "My Favorite Things" -- part of me was sort of heading away from that because it's far and away the best thing on the album, bar none. It is the album. "So What", though... ahh, I can't get into this right now.

You all can take solace that, although your favorite "side one, track one" might be wrong, I deliberately left Rush's "Subdivisions" (Signals) off the list, for the obvious reasons.

benjamin hayes

Rushsucks.

Ted, is your computer fixed?

very metal

Uh, my computer's fixed, the typepad issue is fixed, but my asshole neighbors are passwording their wifi now. Or so it appears. Who knows? And more importantly, who cares?

Anyway, I am thinking now about doing a top jazz list to keep this good thing going. Since no one seems into the "Leetspeak Expose".

70m

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minnie

i like the shins and soup dragons. and shakespears sister. ooo........

very metal

See, Tom: you don't have to feel alone anymore. It's not like I didn't go see the Soup Dragons at Fitzgerald's in high school. With Chris Lyons (a/k/a "Otto Matic", a/k/a "Gene Defcon" -- which at one point might have elicited a sneer but now I have my own little fuckwad alias and Chris had his way before me, so much respect), as a matter of fact. I went to see the Lemonheads, but who's keeping score? It's not like the Lemonheads are some super-sweet hipness litmus test. Who gives a shit? OK, I really wanted to say, these guys are from England and who gives a shit...

the Mayor of Drugachusetts

The Shins are good. They are certainly better than Wedding Present. The test would require reality-changing technology, but IF we could somehow swap the two bands with regards to popularity, "time of discovery" by this honorable blogger, well you would hear a very different horn being tooted here on Secret Comics.

"It's the best band in the world because nobody else knows about 'em but ME!"
--David Cross as "true music fan"

very metal

You're fucking retarded. The Wedding Present have been around since 1985, hold (or held) the Guiness Record for most U.K. Top Ten singles in a year (12), failed to achieve any signficant popularity on 2 major labels (RCA and Island), actually play their guitars, and could (and do) kick the shit out of some band with two records out on Sub Pop. Every one-trick pony indie band can put an "amazing" record or two out before the desperate treading of water begins to show. The Spinanes, anyone? Can I get a Seam? The list could go on and on...

And this has nothing to do with finding either band first -- in fact, I'm more than happy to give credit where it's due. It was irritating room-mate Angela L. (not the nice room-mate Angela O.) who introduced me to the Wedding Present in '94, so it wasn't like I was there for their first rehearsal or anything (only in my dreams...).

Enjoy the Shins all you want, just remember that's time spent you'll never get back.

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P.S. All this Shins shit-talking applies only to Ben Hayes, a/k/a Billy Bonka. But nobody tell him, it'll spoil all the fun.

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